I think its time to see how most members think when it comes to the constant debate about fake or natural boobs...
Do you guys think KMG should start working with girls that have fake boobs as well as the all natural ones they work with today?
I find this one pretty hard myself , i like natural girls more but i don't skip a scene just because the girls have got fake boobs as long as she performs well.
Its not like i want to see thoose oversized mega boob girls here , i just think we miss out on some really fine girls just because of this "rule"
Even though I am not into breasts, like most guys are, I always prefered natural to fake, without a doubt. I don't like fake boobs but if a performer is really hot and is an amazing kisser, that's more important to me....and she should be in a KMG scene.
Yes! If a girl is an excellent kisser she should be on KMG whether she has fake breasts or not. There are girls with fake breasts that are amazing kissers such as Audrey Bitoni and Francesca Le (just ask Andy San Dimas).
You guys who like fake breasts don't get what a turn-off it is for some of us...the woman might as well be an amputee as far as I'm concerned. I would imagine that no one objects to natural breasts....so as lng as KMG features only natural women...there should be no objections..yes?
Yes! If a girl is an excellent kisser she should be on KMG whether she has fake breasts or not. There are girls with fake breasts that are amazing kissers such as Audrey Bitoni and Francesca Le (just ask Andy San Dimas).
I guess it's a good thing it isn't up to you..or me, for that matter.
You're missing my point, I prefer natural breasts myself but it's more about the kissing for me. If there is amazing kissing I don't care if there are fake breasts in the scene. But as you say it's not up to you or me, it's just a survey.
Same goes with me, Robert0259a......there is no doubt that I prefer natural. If it was up to me, fake breasts would be illegal. I don't find them attractive to look at and I don't like how they feel AT ALL.....and I have felt a few. But, like obsessedwithlezkisses said, the kissing is what's most important for me. If KMG does continue with ONLY natural, I am fine with that too......but I wouldn't say no to a good performer with fake boobs.
Even though I wouldn't mind girls with fake breasts on here, I have to admit.. I'm naturally (no point intended) more attracted to girls without them. And it's a shame cuz some of the "silicon" girls put out some really hot kissing scenes...
In a word....YES! In another word...YES! If the girl or woman is a great enough kisser to make it onto KMG, then whether she has enhanced or natural breasts should make no difference whatsover. I could never understand why a line of demarcation had to be drawn here or anywhere on this subject. The key here is passionate kissing. Not the state of the breasts for the women. To me, it's like whether the girls should have long nails or short nails, all blondes or all brunettes. Innies or outies (saluting my friend Spitty). Bring on the best, most passionate girls kissing girls and have at it....without regard to size or status of their breasts!
In a word....YES! In another word...YES! If the girl or woman is a great enough kisser to make it onto KMG, then whether she has enhanced or natural breasts should make no difference whatsover. I could never understand why a line of demarcation had to be drawn here or anywhere on this subject. The key here is passionate kissing. Not the state of the breasts for the women. To me, it's like whether the girls should have long nails or short nails, all blondes or all brunettes. Innies or outies (saluting my friend Spitty). Bring on the best, most passionate girls kissing girls and have at it....without regard to size or status of their breasts!
Have a sister site containing a mix of real n fake or fake on fake. I can think at least 5 girls who are great at kissing but have the fake stuff. Which I do not mind one bit.
-- Edited by mgf on Saturday 28th of August 2010 12:36:21 PM
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Some girls with fake boobs look great, but I greatly prefer natural. Moreover, if you keep 'homogenizing' KMG, it becomes just like every other boring lesbian site around. KMG stands out because it uses natural girls, doesn't do hardcore, eschews toys and emphasizes sensuality. Start eliminating those tenets and it becomes interchangeable with all those other sites. In effect, it loses its identity and in this day and age, it's very hard to maintain a separate identity.
Some girls with fake boobs look great, but I greatly prefer natural. Moreover, if you keep 'homogenizing' KMG, it becomes just like every other boring lesbian site around. KMG stands out because it uses natural girls, doesn't do hardcore, eschews toys and emphasizes sensuality. Start eliminating those tenets and it becomes interchangeable with all those other sites. In effect, it loses its identity and in this day and age, it's very hard to maintain a separate identity.
I actually agree with Xemnu, but for a different reason. I agree that KMG should not be "homgenized" like many of the other girl/girl sites that seem to have a market on sponsoring visas for Eastern European girls who think tongue-clicking and lip-pecking passes for deep, passionate kissing between them. (And caressing another girl like she's dusting furniture.) However, I would think that including girls with enhanced breasts and opening scenes up to truly older women pairing with younger, along with more women of color would enhance the non-homogenization of this site. If you only have girls with natural breasts, I'm not sure how that wouldn't promote the same--hence homogenized--look of the girls.
BTW, this is probably the first and last time you'll ever see the term "non-homogenization" used in a post on this forum......
Okay, which one of you will now use it a second time to prove me wrong?
This site is made for girls kissing girls , I don't mind fake breast , as long as they are good kisser , I saw a lot of scenes for girls with fake boobs , and still it turn me on , I say go for it ,
I hate hate hate fake breasts. But, that being said, KMG is missing out on some older performers who are great kissers (Raylene, Francesca Le). Perhaps on a "sister site" fake breasts wouldn't matter.
I do admire KMG's committment to not having fake breasts on here. I just think there is a way around it and still keep the integrity for the original KMG.
A simple solution.....I don't believe going through all the trouble to create another web site to focus on women with enhanced breasts would be the solution. If KMG were to go through what they'd have to go through to create another web site, it should be for a bigger topic, like older/younger or mixed pairings (black/asian/white). Looking at what the girl/girl video industry leaders have done, they'll devote whole videos to those two alternatives. But natural vs enhanced breasts as a topic is never broken out to an entire video. There is a 'big boob" cottage industry that has been created, but not within the girl/girl maket which is a niche in itself.
The simple solution may be for KMG to just try it for one scene--much the same as the topics older/younger and foreplay (or inital story line). Then ask the members for feedback, sit back and read. Just trying the product first and finding out how the customers feel about it would make the best, most sensible move on KMG's part. Keep it simple.
A simple solution.....I don't believe going through all the trouble to create another web site to focus on women with enhanced breasts would be the solution. If KMG were to go through what they'd have to go through to create another web site, it should be for a bigger topic, like older/younger or mixed pairings (black/asian/white). Looking at what the girl/girl video industry leaders have done, they'll devote whole videos to those two alternatives. But natural vs enhanced breasts as a topic is never broken out to an entire video. There is a 'big boob" cottage industry that has been created, but not within the girl/girl maket which is a niche in itself.
The simple solution may be for KMG to just try it for one scene--much the same as the topics older/younger and foreplay (or inital story line). Then ask the members for feedback, sit back and read. Just trying the product first and finding out how the customers feel about it would make the best, most sensible move on KMG's part. Keep it simple.
Please let Kaylynn be that first girl with fake boobs that does a scene here.
A simple solution.....I don't believe going through all the trouble to create another web site to focus on women with enhanced breasts would be the solution. If KMG were to go through what they'd have to go through to create another web site, it should be for a bigger topic, like older/younger or mixed pairings (black/asian/white). Looking at what the girl/girl video industry leaders have done, they'll devote whole videos to those two alternatives. But natural vs enhanced breasts as a topic is never broken out to an entire video. There is a 'big boob" cottage industry that has been created, but not within the girl/girl maket which is a niche in itself.
The simple solution may be for KMG to just try it for one scene--much the same as the topics older/younger and foreplay (or inital story line). Then ask the members for feedback, sit back and read. Just trying the product first and finding out how the customers feel about it would make the best, most sensible move on KMG's part. Keep it simple.
Please let Kaylynn be that first girl with fake boobs that does a scene here.
She doesn't even have that big boobs anyway...
Why don't you guys just get over it...this isn't a freaking democracy..the guys who own this site choose to use only natural women. End of story.
-- Edited by robert0259a on Monday 30th of August 2010 02:38:34 PM
You're right...it's not a democracy. It's a business. And those who operate a successful business are always attempting to listen to the customer and grow their business by selling more service or product based upon that customer feedback. It's all about what creates and grows revenue, as well as providing an emotionally rewarding feeling about what they do as owners. The reason KMG intelligently encourages our communication with them about our viewpoints is so they understand how their customer base views their current product, and how they can make decisions about "improving" it or not--whatever they decide to do. They can try suggestions from some customers who would like to see diversity in the product here and see how that impacts their revenue. Or make a decision not to. It's totally up to them.
But for a growing business it's never "end of story". A business that does not provide a method for them to hear the customers' feedback is a business that will truly find their OWN end of story--failure. Intelligent owners are always trying to figure out how to make their product better, provide a more responsive service, respond to their customers and grow their revenue. Or at least have the information that will give them the opportunity to make those decisions.
You're right...it's not a democracy. It's a business. And those who operate a successful business are always attempting to listen to the customer and grow their business by selling more service or product based upon that customer feedback. It's all about what creates and grows revenue, as well as providing an emotionally rewarding feeling about what they do as owners. The reason KMG intelligently encourages our communication with them about our viewpoints is so they understand how their customer base views their current product, and how they can make decisions about "improving" it or not--whatever they decide to do. They can try suggestions from some customers who would like to see diversity in the product here and see how that impacts their revenue. Or make a decision not to. It's totally up to them.
But for a growing business it's never "end of story". A business that does not provide a method for them to hear the customers' feedback is a business that will truly find their OWN end of story--failure. Intelligent owners are always trying to figure out how to make their product better, provide a more responsive service, respond to their customers and grow their revenue. Or at least have the information that will give them the opportunity to make those decisions.
Thus endeth the lesson.....
The difference is: if they continue to use natural women only...we'll both be here..if they add fake women..I'll leave....result: adding fake women will result in a net loss for KMG.
^ Yeah but eleven votes is hardly a representative or proportional sampling. I'm not saying that some aren't OK with using both types of girls, but I don't think we should extrapolate much from that poll.
I remember being on another site for quite a while and a lot of us on the message boards would complain because many ideas we suggested never bore fruit, and from our vantage point it seemed like "hey everybody wants this thing, so why don't you do it?" But honestly, the couple dozen guys who take the time to regularly post on message boards amount to a VERY small percentage of the overall membership of a site. There's always a 'silent' (or at least, 'non posting') majority out there who make their feelings known via email and that's the voice that a company has to listen to.
I'm not a member here, I just rent the compilation videos that KMG compiles (sorry, I'm cash strapped right now) so I can't say I'll "leave" if the company goes for the enhanced boobs, but I do think in general that I'll have less enthusiasm. The enhanced girls HAVE plenty of venues out there and they far outnumber the natural girls. It just strikes me as kind of sad that there is NO other place around that caters just to the natural boob fancier, and now even this nice little haven is being challenged. It's perfectly within everyone's rights to do so, but come on, give us ONE place, guys! :)
You're right, Xemnu, not much from the 11 votes. But at least it's something. And again right on the "silent majority" who pay the dues as members (as I do). But don't be overly concerned about the enhanced breasts "movement". As much as I enjoy them, I'm not asking that the naturals be replaced or outnumbered. Just add in a few anhanced, that's all. Even if it's just a few from time to time--all depending on the high standards KMG has set for kissing ability, of course. That's all. I'm fine with the naturals here, just asking that a few enhanced be permitted entry periodically, not a makeover of the site. That's all.
mgf wrote:Have a sister site containing a mix of real n fake or fake on fake. I can think at least 5 girls who are great at kissing but have the fake stuff. Which I do not mind one bit.
That's not too bad of an idea. Being that the possibly upcoming sister site will incorporate stuff to not conflict with the current KMG style, throwing in sporadic bookings of "fake" girls on there may actually work to an extent as opposed to doing it on the main site. KMG did mention that depending on the financial response they get for the "on demand / sister site" thing, they might consider trying new things.
You're right, Xemnu, not much from the 11 votes. But at least it's something. And again right on the "silent majority" who pay the dues as members (as I do). But don't be overly concerned about the enhanced breasts "movement". As much as I enjoy them, I'm not asking that the naturals be replaced or outnumbered. Just add in a few anhanced, that's all. Even if it's just a few from time to time--all depending on the high standards KMG has set for kissing ability, of course. That's all. I'm fine with the naturals here, just asking that a few enhanced be permitted entry periodically, not a makeover of the site. That's all.
I live for the day when this horrific procedure is outlawed....my hatred for implants transends KMG. Hopefully, if more sites like KMG refuse to use implanted women....any woman contemplating getting them will realize we're not all mindless twits who are obsessed with massive breasts...no matter how horrific they look.
-- Edited by robert0259a on Monday 30th of August 2010 05:05:01 PM
Its not like we want this site to be all about fake boobs, and we don't want to see any pornstar out there just because they have fake boobs.
Its about thoose girls that are great kissers but unfortunatly have fake boobs and that means we will never see them perform here. I don't like girls with gigantic boobs that looks rediculous , but there are lots of girl out there that have fake boobs that almost looks like they are natural.
I want this site to continue to focus on all natural girls but be able to book some girls with fake boobs as well, that can contribute to making this site even better.
If the name of this site was "Kiss my breasts Girl!", I would worry more about this question.
Good kissing is good kissing. If they really have a bad boob job let them keep on a tight push-up bra or tank-top so we can at least enjoy the curvy cleavage.
So, when are you guys going to come out with a "Kiss my Butt Girl!" site? lol Will have polls on butt implants, spanking, thongs vs boxers, noisy vs silent&deadly, to beano or not to beano ...
Well, a few people ask us to comment here so here it goes.
From the very start of this site it has maintained two constant themes, kissing and all natural girls. I don't anticipate that changing.
I think it's important to maintain an identity, and all natural girls are a big part of our identity. If we started to shoot fake boobs at this point, I also think it would make us more like your typical porn sites. There are many things we don't allow. For example, we would never allow our scenes to be violent, because that's not our identity either. We don't let the girls dress like strippers, that's also not our identity, but it doesn't mean we hate strippers. I love strippers!!
Yes, we miss out on a few girls who may be great kissers, but we probably also miss out on some great kissers who are much older performers, but they don't really fit our identity either. And I'm not saying that I don't like mature women, there are many I find very sexy but that doesn't mean they should be here.
Truth is, you pick your identity and stick to it, we simply can't have a million faces.
I can understand the argument that if the site is about kissing then why does breasts matter. Well, it matters because we have always celebrated all natural girls along with the kissing. Early on, our customers demanded all natural girls and many still demand it. I also believe that natural bodies work best with our style of body worship.
I can also honestly say that most of our girls overwhelmingly prefer natural girls, that's also pretty important.
There are many sites that celebrate big giant fake boobs, we elect to celebrate the girls who decide to stay natural.
Kissing is priority one here and right behind that is body worship and natural bodies, it's been that way from day one.
Personally, I have nothing against girls who get boob jobs, a girl has a right to do whatever she wishes with her body. Sometimes, I would even say it's the right choice if it betters a girl's self image. At the same time, it astonishes me when a girl with perfect breasts goes out and gets a boob job.
To wrap it up, I don't see our all natural policy changing, and it's not personal, it's just sticking to our identity. Hopefully, the fake boob fans can understand and hang around for the kissing.
Oh yeah, I like when you guys have polls, but we simply can't make decisions based on the polls, it's a tiny sampling so we can't allow it to guide our major directions. I think most of you know that we pay close attention to the forum, we're always listening but we can't have knee jerk reactions to the forum comments.
-- Edited by KissMe Girl on Tuesday 31st of August 2010 07:37:01 AM
Well, a few people ask us to comment here so here it goes.
From the very start of this site it has maintained two constant themes, kissing and all natural girls. I don't anticipate that changing.
I think it's important to maintain an identity, and all natural girls are a big part of our identity. If we started to shoot fake boobs at this point, I also think it would make us more like your typical porn sites. There are many things we don't allow. For example, we would never allow our scenes to be violent, because that's not our identity either. We don't let the girls dress like strippers, that's also not our identity, but it doesn't mean we hate strippers. I love strippers!!
Yes, we miss out on a few girls who may be great kissers, but we probably also miss out on some great kissers who are much older performers, but they don't really fit our identity either. And I'm not saying that I don't like mature women, there are many I find very sexy but that doesn't mean they should be here.
Truth is, you pick your identity and stick to it, we simply can't have a million faces.
I can understand the argument that if the site is about kissing then why does breasts matter. Well, it matters because we have always celebrated all natural girls along with the kissing. Early on, our customers demanded all natural girls and many still demand it. I also believe that natural bodies work best with our style of body worship.
I can also honestly say that most of our girls overwhelmingly prefer natural girls, that's also pretty important.
There are many sites that celebrate big giant fake boobs, we elect to celebrate the girls who decide to stay natural.
Kissing is priority one here and right behind that is body worship and natural bodies, it's been that way from day one.
Personally, I have nothing against girls who get boob jobs, a girl has a right to do whatever she wishes with her body. Sometimes, I would even say it's the right choice if it betters a girl's self image. At the same time, it astonishes me when a girl with perfect breasts goes out and gets a boob job.
To wrap it up, I don't see our all natural policy changing, and it's not personal, it's just sticking to our identity. Hopefully, the fake boob fans can understand and hang around for the kissing.
Oh yeah, I like when you guys have polls, but we simply can't make decisions based on the polls, it's a tiny sampling so we can't allow it to guide our major directions. I think most of you know that we pay close attention to the forum, we're always listening but we can't have knee jerk reactions to the forum comments.
-- Edited by KissMe Girl on Tuesday 31st of August 2010 07:37:01 AM
Hi!
Thanks for you reply.
I respect you opinion and that you do what you think is the best for the site.
But i have to say that i don't agree with you on some of your points right now because if its one thing you have done its chache this site constantly. And that is to the better most of the times. I remember when i first visited this site when it had just started and the site is nothing like that now.
The only thing you havent changed by now must be the use of girls with fake boobs...
I can't see how this site would be like every other site out there just because you may book a few girls that have fake boobs. I haven't seen any site that is even close to being like KMG.
I know its hard to judge anything based on the polls, but thats the only thing we forum members can do to try to see what is popular and what isn't. We can't threathen people who arent that active on the forum to vote either.
I will not continue to argue about this and hope and belives KMG will be as good in the future as it is now...
Well, I guess that answered our question in this particular thread and one other. It sounds like both enhanced breasts and older/younger pairings will not be happening here. Which is very dissappointing. Even without those this is still the best site of it's kind and I'll continue to enthusiastically support it with both my comments and my cash.
But since I remain an overly opinionated person, I do have to respond to one of your comments....you have established the particular identity concerning girls kissing and natural breasts. You want a certain look to the girls, and want them involved in a certain activity. I can understand and appreciate that. However, you have "tweaked" your product since the beginnging (I agree with Sauron81, I've seen a significant upgrade in the activity in your scenes since the beginning--actually "significant" is putting it mildly). I'd suggest that you continue to consider that upgrading. Change for change sake is an empty activity. But change to adapt to the market, the desires of your members and continuing to improve your product would be a smart thing to consider. For example, when you started the site, the girls didn't have as many tatoos as they do now. Would you rule out a girl with natural breasts if she had too many tatoos?
So you have spoken on the subject and it's dissappointing. But this site is still superior and you're doing a great job with it. I'll just plant the seed with you to further consider the subject. I hope you do one day.
> we elect to celebrate the girls who decide to stay natural.
WORD!
-- Edited by robert0259a on Tuesday 31st of August 2010 04:20:59 PM
But you can't even tell the difference if you think Raylene has natural breats.
So why would it matter to you, KMG could just book a girl with fake breasts but say that they are real and you would be happy ;)
I have yet to see a pair of implants that I couldn't spot....and even the ones that are very good...you can tell by way her partner handles them..you'll never see fake breasts handled roughly...some of the wonderful scenes, like when Avy comes from behind, kissing the neck and squeezing the breasts...a wonderful turn-on...ain't happening with silicone babes.
> we elect to celebrate the girls who decide to stay natural.
WORD!
-- Edited by robert0259a on Tuesday 31st of August 2010 04:20:59 PM
But you can't even tell the difference if you think Raylene has natural breats.
So why would it matter to you, KMG could just book a girl with fake breasts but say that they are real and you would be happy ;)
I have yet to see a pair of implants that I couldn't spot....and even the ones that are very good...you can tell by way her partner handles them..you'll never see fake breasts handled roughly...some of the wonderful scenes, like when Avy comes from behind, kissing the neck and squeezing the breasts...a wonderful turn-on...ain't happening with silicone babes.
Sorry Robert i thought you were the on requesting Raylene thinking she didn't have implants, but it was Chip Douglas. Sorry again...
> we elect to celebrate the girls who decide to stay natural.
WORD!
-- Edited by robert0259a on Tuesday 31st of August 2010 04:20:59 PM
But you can't even tell the difference if you think Raylene has natural breats.
So why would it matter to you, KMG could just book a girl with fake breasts but say that they are real and you would be happy ;)
I have yet to see a pair of implants that I couldn't spot....and even the ones that are very good...you can tell by way her partner handles them..you'll never see fake breasts handled roughly...some of the wonderful scenes, like when Avy comes from behind, kissing the neck and squeezing the breasts...a wonderful turn-on...ain't happening with silicone babes.
Sorry Robert i thought you were the on requesting Raylene thinking she didn't have implants, but it was Chip Douglas. Sorry again...
Look, I prefer natural breasts, like i've mentioned before. I understand some things that go on during scenes can't happen like Robert mentioned above. I love it too when a girl gets behind another girl and squeezes and grabs her breasts.
Raylene was the first woman I really got into back when I first started watching adult. I don't care if she has implants. I would love to see her on KMG, but I know it will never happen.
It's obviously KMG's choice not to book women who have fake breasts and I think it's a fun discussion to debate here on the forum. I respect everyone's opinons and I respect KMG's decision not to use enhanced talent. They're sticking it to it and that's admirable. Obviously. this website is a tremendous success and they're doing something right.
As someone who loves enhanced breasts and would love to see great girl/girl kissers on this site with those beautiful "voluptuous" body parts....I agree with your points, Chip, and you've expressed them well. And I love Raylene too.
Here's something that maybe funny, they should start working with girls that like to KISS, fake breasts or not, they must like to kiss. Who cares if they have fake or real tits, what's next, small butts only, left check mold only, blue eyes only, its a kissing site people.
Seems to me this is a kissing site. Why would fake or natural breast even be part of the equation. It's like going to a blowjob site and being upset because the girl giving the blow job doesn't have sexy feet or (insert noun). I'm insane for kissing content. I want it with natural breast, without natural breast, with 3 breast, and any other way I can get it as long as I get great tongue kissing. I vote for both. That way, we get to see a wider field of performers, and thus, better tongue kissing talent and content come through, as there are some girls with fake breast that really kiss great and have long tongues. By the way, I think the performers and content are good enough already so I'm definitely not complaining. If we all share, then we all get 'some' of what we like. KMG, you update about 3 or 4 times a month and that's cool. However, we all love your content and are always eager for more, so feel free to create more sites if that's the way we can get more. I'll join.
Seems to me this is a kissing site. Why would fake or natural breast even be part of the equation. It's like going to a blowjob site and being upset because the girl giving the blow job doesn't have sexy feet or (insert noun). I'm insane for kissing content. I want it with natural breast, without natural breast, with 3 breast, and any other way I can get it as long as I get great tongue kissing. I vote for both. That way, we get to see a wider field of performers, and thus, better tongue kissing talent and content come through, as there are some girls with fake breast that really kiss great and have long tongues. By the way, I think the performers and content are good enough already so I'm definitely not complaining. If we all share, then we all get 'some' of what we like. KMG, you update about 3 or 4 times a month and that's cool. However, we all love your content and are always eager for more, so feel free to create more sites if that's the way we can get more. I'll join.
You have a great attitude, cmpatt1....glad to see you in this forum.