oddjob wrote:

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As a huge fan of girls kissing I still pop into this site in the hope that it may return to its former glory. I have not been a member for months and months. I just cannot see anything to stimulate me towards joining. My thoughts are based purely on my last few months of membership and of the trailers, which for a kissing site seem to feature more humping and grinding than kissing. It now seems more a softcore Lesbian porn site than a site specialising in girls kissing.

Every scene seems predictable, it is impossible to imagine that the 2 girls have just met and are about to discover each other. It is completely evident that they have been hired to do a mapped out routine for kiss me girl. 

As an example, there used to be scenes outdoors, 2 girls kissing under a tree on a blanket in a scene oozing with romance. Would I be right in thinking that the girls watch a few clips in advance and are under the impression that they need to be so aggressive towards each other, following the same 40 minute pattern?

Has there been a demand or request for so much humping and grinding? It gives rise to yet more aggression as opposed to tender love making. I would just like to see more focus on kissing, even if they have to stop for a rest! 

This may seem a crazy thing to mention, but to me, the girls are actually too beautiful week in week out for my poor imagination. If we go back to the good old days where regular "girl or women next door" types featured, perhaps this gave a greater feeling of reality.

And last but not least, why oh why is there a complete disregard towards deep kissing,  lip locking or mouth to mouth kissing? (Call it what you will) Are girls prevented from doing this or are both reluctant? Its just that when I imagine 2 girls kissing with genuine passion I see this type of kissing as being part of it all - Not slavvering all over each other, whilst I acknowledge that many members like to see this - to totally ignore the former is criminal!!

I hope to Mr KMG that you do not view this as being totally scathing, its difficult to get across a personal point of view without sounding ultra critical. I am just disappointed more than anything and would love to still be a part of it all.

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 Hello, thanks for the post. Thought I would share just a few thoughts.

First, we have never tried to tell stories of romance here, :) it's just never been our goal. We do prefer the girls to be aggressive and that's what most of the girls prefer as well.

Sometimes I think we all get really caught up in what we want to see the girls do, it's easy I think for customers to forget that it's critical to let the girls do stuff that turns them on for real, whether it's humping or whatever. The scenes are actually very free style without much of a plan, we let them find their way for the most part. It's easy to say the scenes are all the same, most every lesbian scene is not much different than any other, unless it gets really freaky.

We allow the girls to hump and grind because they love it, the scenes are way longer now than in the beginning, so there's plenty of time to allow for the humping. There's just as much kissing as there ever was, maybe more, people just forget that the scenes are no longer 20 minutes long.

As for the girls being to beautiful, not going to change that. :)

I would disagree that there's a total lack of deep kissing, many of the scenes have deep kisses mixed in, although I have heard about ten different definitions of what constitutes deep kissing.

Also it may be a little unfair to say there's no deep kissing if you've only watched trailers for months and months.

In the end, it's a classic example of nothing will satisfy everyone. For every guy who wants 40 minutes of just kissing and romance, there's another guy who would be bored stiff.

I guess all we can really do is to do what we do, some people will like it and some won't, that's true of every company in this business or every company period for that matter. I think we all try to develop a style and tweak it here and there, but I think it's a mistake to try make all scenes be both romantic and aggressive.

And don't worry, I don't view your comments as scathing, we appreciate the input. It helps to guide us, but we'll never make everyone happy, not even for a minute.

Thanks much, take care.

-- Edited by KissMe Girl on Thursday 8th of March 2012 03:24:09 AM

Just thought I would point this out, I looked at the scenes listed on the first page of the scenes section, there are 20 scenes on that page. 13 of those scenes show a screenshot of deep kissing if you look at the caps by clicking on the View Girls link. We include deep kissing in many of the scenes, you're not seeing because you watch the trailers only. Everyone knows that there's plenty of kissing in the scenes at this point, so we do use the trailers to also show that there's body worship, etc. There are a few links below for the caps.

http://www.kissmegirl.com/samples/charleyalison/charleyalisonimage.htm

http://www.kissmegirl.com/samples/jenniferleilani/jenniferleilaniimage.htm

http://www.kissmegirl.com/samples/leilanichastity/leilanichastityimage.htm

http://www.kissmegirl.com/samples/jennifercharley/jennifercharleyimage.htm

http://www.kissmegirl.com/samples/chastityvicki/chastityvickiimage.htm

http://www.kissmegirl.com/samples/heathersarah/heathersarahimage.htm

http://www.kissmegirl.com/samples/jenniferceleste/jennifercelesteimage.htm

http://www.kissmegirl.com/samples/charleylizzy/charleylizzyimage.htm

So there's just a few examples of deep kisses in the scenes, two open mouths locked together. Those are actual screen shots from the scenes, not stills. Some girls are better at it than others, so it may not appear in every single scene, but it's far from totally left out.

I think you're making the huge assumption that if you don't see it in the trailer that it's not in the scene. You obviously love deep kissing, so chances are there's not enough to satisfy you, but it's there in most cases.

Personally I think the way the women kiss has changed drastically over the past couple of years.  The scenes used to be comprised of sensual and deep kissing by women that enjoy kissing women (with a little spit and drool thrown in).  It seems like the scenes now are primarily made up of two women that are focused on swirling their tongues around and drooling all over the place.  I am probably in the minority, but I wish that an effort could be made to mix these two styles of kissing.

KissMe Girl wrote:

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oddjob wrote:

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Ok, I am going to sign up - if there is some deep kissing I am happy with that.
But your quote "Everyone knows that there's plenty of kissing in the scenes at this point" is naive, presumably the trailers are there to draw in new customers not for the benefit of the members who already know what they are getting. If you repeatedly miss deep kissing out of your trailers altogether then myself and hundreds of others have no option but to make the assumption that there is no deep kissing - and I wouldn't say its a huge assumption either

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 OK, well as I mentioned there's probably not enough deep kissing to make a huge deep kissing fan happy, but I promise at the very least that I will make a giant effort to add more in the next scenes.

By the way, did you notice that FivoFox posted that the kissing doesn't even matter to him, clearly it matters alot to you, see how very different opinions can be. :)

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 i said i dont have problem with the kissing here in KMG , i didnt say its not matter to me , i meant the kissing balance ,

for examble , the kissing in KMG scenes start with like 10 minutes of kissing wich is good , then they start to playing , grinding , and stuff , then they kiss at the last 10 minutes or 5 minutes as well , i like this balance ,

but what i meant is u cant watch 10 minutes kissing when the girls just open there mouth and just moving there tongues the entire time , its like they just want the scene to finish ,

did u watch Alison & Charley scene ?? , or Chastity and Leilani ?? , or all of Celeste scenes ?? , the kissing balance was good , but the kissing styles sucked , its becoz of the performers  ,

What about mixing it up?  Maybe you could have the girls mix it up in each scene by kissing in a sensual and passionate way as well as using more saliva and licking.  Or you could have one scene be shot in the style the videos used to be and the next one could be shot in the newer style.  I just wish there could be a happy medium reached.

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KissMe Girl wrote:

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oddjob wrote:

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Ok, I am going to sign up - if there is some deep kissing I am happy with that.
But your quote "Everyone knows that there's plenty of kissing in the scenes at this point" is naive, presumably the trailers are there to draw in new customers not for the benefit of the members who already know what they are getting. If you repeatedly miss deep kissing out of your trailers altogether then myself and hundreds of others have no option but to make the assumption that there is no deep kissing - and I wouldn't say its a huge assumption either

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 OK, well as I mentioned there's probably not enough deep kissing to make a huge deep kissing fan happy, but I promise at the very least that I will make a giant effort to add more in the next scenes.

By the way, did you notice that FivoFox posted that the kissing doesn't even matter to him, clearly it matters alot to you, see how very different opinions can be. :)

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 i said i dont have problem with the kissing here in KMG , i didnt say its not matter to me , i meant the kissing balance ,

for examble , the kissing in KMG scenes start with like 10 minutes of kissing wich is good , then they start to playing , grinding , and stuff , then they kiss at the last 10 minutes or 5 minutes as well , i like this balance ,

but what i meant is u cant watch 10 minutes kissing when the girls just open there mouth and just moving there tongues the entire time , its like they just want the scene to finish ,

did u watch Alison & Charley scene ?? , or Chastity and Leilani ?? , or all of Celeste scenes ?? , the kissing balance was good , but the kissing styles sucked , its becoz of the performers  ,

 

 

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 I agree there is no problem with KissMe Girl style of kissing but sometimes some girls blow up the entire scene. They couldn't get into the kissing and let the other performer do something. When I see that as a customer I am getting bored even the other performer is my favourite girl.

So I like the balance and your way of directing the scenes, it is always improving because I am a member of this site from the beginning and I know how it is picked up in time.

But I think sometimes you need to step in the scene and tell the girls what they should do. Sometimes I see too much grinding, sometimes I see too long kissing with same style, sometimes I see too much fingering.

The scenario is not too important for me but I think at least girls should talk sometimes. This would be very hot because we see interaction between girls. Dirty talk like "kiss me" "stick out your tongue" "suck my tits" ...

Sauron81 wrote:

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This is a complex topic for me at least, and i agree on some point both from oddjob and Kissmegirl.

But i have to say i don't care that much for the scenes anymore and haven't done so in a long time :(
I just find them so rushed and stressed up, i'm also one of thoose guys who likes the kissing the most and i have a hard time relating to the scenes released recently. There still is some really nice kissing in all scenes so they aren't all bad for me but the scenes just starts to rushed for me. I would like for them to start more slow atleast.

I would like to see different types of scenes, not like it is today where almost all scenes looks the same and the only thing seperating them is the girls in them...

I like that you let the girls do their thing most of the time, but why can't we have som scenes that is more "directed" ?
The girls are used to getting directions all the time working with other companies.

I know you have tried a little bit of story telling in the past but please just consider it again for a upcoming scene, if it doesnt get any good feedback then skip it in the future. I really like story telling and think lots of the other subscribers do the same?

All in all i still love KMG, and don't think there is any other kissing site even close to this!

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 I pretty much agree with Sauron, I feel the same way. I know myself and I know that this site (as it is today) explicit or non explicit pretty soon will no longer turn me on at all. Everything is becoming mechanical and predictable and at one point I will not be able to overlook the lack of interaction between the girls, they don't talk to each other, they not even look at each other in most videos, no sexy outfits, I am not asking for giant high heels and leather lingerie please, don't gat me wrong, but.... c'on some girls appear on jean shorts and sleepers LOL  !!

And also don't understand why don't they kiss like normal people instead of all that tongue acrobatics, chin swallowing, tongue fight, etc. Not to mention the humping, the leg rubing, the jumping and the like.

I wish the camera operator knew how to use the zoom instead of cut the take and re-positioning himself every time. The picture quality is superb but the camera work......barely decent to poor. Period.

And last I have to admite that it gets me a bit mad when I read a g/g porn producer saying that " My videos have very little directing and I let the girls doing things their way, the way they (the girls) like it "  .....(!!!???) Say what ? I personally believe that it would me much more wiser to do things the way WE THE VIEWERS like it, don't you think ?


Good night.

it all went wrong when you showed up...


what i mean by saying this is we all have our own ideas of what this site should be. i dont care for storylines. all they do is provide a few moments of awkwardness before i get to what i actually want to see. some people dont like trib. they see it as a lot of meaningless humping. some people want more body worship, some people want more kissing and less body worship, etc, etc.

making this stuff is a much an artform as it is a business. while they do need to do things to please their customers in order to stay in business, they have to feel good about the product they're putting out. it has to be inline with their own artistic vision and you cant let customers totally dictate your artistic expression(not wanting to shoot girls who are enhanced is one of those things). if money was the sole motivation for making this site it wouldnt be here in the first place. KMG isnt a porn factory like bangbros, brazzers, or realitykings.

KMG has done an excellent job of responding to what the customers want. you have the KMG explicit thing about to kick off and you got sloppygirl. they even tried their hand at a bit of storyline in a handful of scenes a while back. they're never gonna make everyone happy but they are indeed listening and making changes that they feel are within reason.

have you seen all the crazy stuff people want to see implemented in these scenes? there isnt enough room for it all. at the end of the day this site is gonna go where its gonna go and you can take it or leave it.

KissMe Girl wrote:

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OK, I'll make some final comments and then get back to other duties.

Everyone has their own idea of what makes a scene good, the style of kissing, the kind of girls, the level of aggression, etc, etc, etc.

What one customer likes, another customer hates, I know this because I've seen it for years. Every time there's a scene that's slower, some complain because it wasn't aggressive enough, and vice versa.

Every small change on this site over the years has happened as a result of customer feedback. People always wanted more tongue with tongue sucking and etc back when we didn't have a ton of that, some wanted more sloppy stuff so we opened another site, and so on.

If some customers hate a girl and some customers love the same girl, do we never shoot her again because some hate her or do we shoot her more because some love her? Which customer gets their way?

If some love aggressive tongue kissing with body worship, grinding and etc, and others hate it, which customer gets their way?

We use the term passionate alot in this forum, and everyone has their definition of what that means, to some it means 2 girls holding hands in love and slowly making love with romance, to others it means 2 girls who appear to want to devour one another with tons of energy. Who's right?

So in the end, all we can do is listen and try to make a product for you guys, but it will never please everyone or even come close. this I know.

Peace.

-- Edited by KissMe Girl on Friday 9th of March 2012 03:55:34 AM

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 I like it the way it currently is. Agressive!

cmpatt1 wrote:

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I like it the way it is. Agressive!

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 I don't like it the way it is . I would like to see the girls just kissing like normal people instead of all that tongue acrobatics, who kisses like that ? It is ridiculous. Do you kiss your partner like that ?

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cmpatt1 wrote:

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I like it the way it is. Agressive!

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 I don't like it the way it is . I would like to see the girls just kissing like normal people instead of all that tongue acrobatics, who kisses like that ? It is ridiculous. Do you kiss your partner like that ?

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 LMAO !! , ur comment is GOLD ..

Sapphic Sage wrote:

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I have been very happy with the last 20 or so DVD's I have purchased over the last 24 months. I agree with Fans asking for Deep Kissing in every release.

That said...

As a side note... Since cameras do not focus exclusively on just mouths and lips, and there is much more to Girl-Girl sex going on while Kissing is going on... I am particularly pleased to see more explicit Trib being shown... "While The Girlz Are Kissing." 

For my tastes, I would love to see your "Exxxplicit Core Scenes" on DVD including Close Ups of the Labia parting Labia Trib. Kissing and Trib are my two most favorite Essential Lesbian Elements followed by and along with Mutual & Simultaneous Finger F_ _ king between the Girlz.

Your inclusion of some "Contrasting Looks" match ups including Black/White pairings has been satisfying for me over the last few months.

I came here because "I Could Count On Kissing" in every Girl-Girl Scene including Generous Intensely Vigorous Tongue on Tongue Kissing which segues into Deep Open Mouthed Penetrating Kisses. Here at KMG, I know the Girlz are going for "The Power Kissing Extraordinaire" style that has become the signature of KMG's more Erotic Genre of Lesbian Trysting.

Keep up the good work, and as always please thank the Girlz for this Legacy Lesbian Fan.

Sapphic Sage  P.S. KMG is an Oasis of Kissing... in a Mainstream Lesbian Wasteland that mostly includes kindergarten pecks to No Kissing whatsoever while girlz Diddle Themselves endlessly with electrical mechanical vibrators and Strap Ons.  I am always pleased when KMG Blows Me A New Kiss With A New Release! Thanxxx, Sapphic

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 What Sapphic Sage is trying to tell us (in a very loud fashion) is that as long as he/she likes it the way it is everything in this world is OK and no changes should be made. The rest of the human kind should adapt and acomodate to his/her preferences, only Sapphic Sage's opinion counts and everyone else knows nothing. AND THAT IS FINAL   !!!